Hola! *
Tattered-Dreams let me know you had posted on our conversation, so I wanted to replay back.
Now I know I'm not part of the discussion, but I'm arabian myself and I have stables in egypt with arabians of the purest
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And I stumbled over your talking about arabians
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But the arabians ARE "One" of the oldest breeds, yes they are in most horses BUT, remember that the arabian are not one of the ONLY oldest breeds
! there are some horses that are defined in types as the originales, and the drafts + arabians each have their own type that they are descendet from(spelled? xD). That's why some places you have the "rough" type or the slim athletics
in the nordic places or what you call it, have the rough icelandic ponies as their "original". That could be why the Romans didn't have anything on the arabians, because they used those small but strong ponies. And later on they got hold of the bigger type with more stamina. And If you watch movies, and pictures of old times, the ONLY ones who rode these beauties where the higer ups.
And the beduins/sheiks and all the arabians who bred the pure ones kept them in secret, their breeding stock/book on their bloodlines and family tree's were as sacred as the koran - their holy book. So that could also be another reason for why there isn't much recorded about them
As Tattered mentioned, theu really are creatures right under god, they are mentioned int he holy koran so that is 100000000% the reason they were kept a secret. BUT then times began to change, and as a big offering/gift of grattitude the sheik would offer his best stud/mare to the other lands kings. That's how the arabian horses came wide around the world. But also because the arabians/mideastern people had conquerd some places f. example spain? Their horses are descendants of arabians and that's because they won spain once. I hope I haven't lost ya xD haha
And I know that the tail bones does as you say give them the high carriage of the tail. And the arabians talk about that the ribs are for seeing who is pure or not - but THIS is only between arabs, and their stables
I only buttet in because I as I said have a stable in egypt, where they breed the finest and purest - If you ask my uncle, and I have a beautifull mare that are after Koheilan bloodline
remember there are 5 bloodlines of arabians, each breeds a different arabian, built, stamina, exterior.
I hopw it helped and sorry I just wrote all this haha xD
A lot of why I'm asking is too find out how old the breed is and how they influenced the Spanish Andalusian. I was trying to deduce whether the Arabian breed went farther back than the Romans, perhaps to Babylon. Would you know at all?
I told Tattie I wondered whether that high tail and less ribs might have been a choice trait the Bedouins bred into their horses. It seems so!
I believe the Romans had an Andalusian ancestor of some sort. The modern Andalusian didn't come until after Muslim rule was replaced with Christian rule in the 1400s, but Arabian blood had moved into the Andalusian breed (and made it better). I don't think they had ponies, but they may have had draft crosses, like warmbloods. The Roman sculptures show horses like this.
The thing I'm confused with is that those horses look like modern Andalusians, so I think the Arabian should have been in Roman times helping to create a good breed. But the Romans have no record, and the Bedouins had no record or were too secretive. This makes me wonder; what made the gorgeous horses in Roman statuary if they have no Arabian records?